Comments Thread For: Recent Heavyweight Momentum Warrants Generational Perspective

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By Lyle Fitzsimmons - I'm in a heavyweight state of mind. And given the recent deluge of big men carrying gaudy belts, it's no coincidence. WBC kingpin Deontay Wilder vaporizes Luis Ortiz with a single right-hand shot one weekend, then Anthony Joshua regains his position as "governor" of the division according to Eddie Hearn, at least with a...
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[Tecnoworld]

I'd rate Vitali Klitschko much higher than that. He was on par or better than Lewis in their match (too bad for the cut) and I rate Lewis as possibly the greatest ever.

Then there are many others, from previous eras, like Dempsey and Marciano, that imo are to be included in the top 15.

Present top 2 (Wilder and Fury) are to be considered, but for totally different reasons. Wilder is very effective. Fury is a master of boxing.

AJ is none of these two. He's a terrific athlete, who decided to compete in boxing. He's also very committed and does his homeworks.

Rather than AJ I'd pick Usyk, who's another real master of the technique.

[sportbuddha]

I think both Joe Frazier (I am a fan) and Tyson (massive fan) are overrated. Joe you pointed to. Tyson, also you eluded to, the weak division. Don’t get me wrong, under Cus, Mike was a menace but when I say overrated, I mean the general public sometimes put him up there with Ali, so in that respect he’s overrated.

Ali was something different class, he won in different ways, he overcame social adversity and physical ones, true legend and I can’t see anyone today beating him. I would say the same for Foreman.

Joshua....I like everything about the guy, but I think Fury would just do to him what he did to Wlad. Wilder, could seriously hurt AJ, but, I think Wilder is a 50/50, if AJ lands that right hand the way he did three times against Ruiz, Wilder would go to jelly..Fury is the king of the division right now, and he’s the one I least like to watch.

Interesting, 14-18 are scraping the barrel a bit, can’t see any of them being a cut above today’s crowd, especially given their size.

Buster Douglas! The guy was loveable, but a puppy dog, Wilder would have knocked him out of his boots!

[sportbuddha]

I'd rate Vitali Klitschko much higher than that. He was on par or better than Lewis in their match (too bad for the cut) and I rate Lewis as possibly the greatest ever.

Then there are many others, from previous eras, like Dempsey and Marciano, that imo are to be included in the top 15.

Present top 2 (Wilder and Fury) are to be considered, but for totally different reasons. Wilder is very effective. Fury is a master of boxing.

AJ is none of these two. He's a terrific athlete, who decided to compete in boxing. He's also very committed and does his homeworks.

Rather than AJ I'd pick Usyk, who's another real master of the technique.

Totally with you on Vitali, he was better than Lennox.

Usyk, I think is riding the Loma wave on half the talent, I saw him outboxed by Tony Bellew for a few rounds, Bellew is tricky, but a small HW and was never A grade, so the jury is still out for me on Usyk, needs to grow a lot.

[1hourRun]

8b. Tyson Fury, Fury gets this position based on two nights’ effort. His herky-jerky torment of Klitschko was a masterpiece

Fewest Punches Landed - 12 Round Title match. This giant hunchback Tyson Fury is massively overrated, this openhanded ranking comes off two horrible performances : an all-time low compubox record against a washed active HOF way past his prime, and getting dropped/arguably KO vs. Deontay Wilder.

How can anyone seriously rank this clown in the same company of greats based off his pitiful resume and controversial performances ?

[Letmaku]

Small boxers are being admired more when they beat bigger guys. In other weights, they should bring back same day weigh ins to level the playing field and avoid weight bullies in boxing.

[Dr Rassclart]

You have to include David Tua on that list. He may have been ‘Joshuad’ by Lewis but he destroyed Moorer & Rahman.

[Sweden2716]

Larry Holmes was underrated, where is Ken Norton ? Gave a prime Holmes hell and lost split decision, beat the greatest heavyweight ever Ali and lost 2 questionable decisions to Ali.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Larry Holmes was underrated, where is Ken Norton ? Gave a prime Holmes hell and lost split decision, beat the greatest heavyweight ever Ali and lost 2 questionable decisions to Ali.

Both of them were great fighters, I still enjoy watching some fights.

[doom_specialist]

Why isn't there a mention of Joe Louis?

EDIT: "I decided to look back at the men who’ve taken turns as the world’s consensus No. 1 heavyweight since I drew my first chilly breaths back in the final few weeks of winter 1969."

Don't mind me. Just forgot to read.