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    The normally mild-mannered Cuban trainer, Pedro Diaz, recently expressed his dismay at the actions of HBO commentator Jim Lampley subsequent to Guillermo Rigondeaux's fight against Moises Flores on June 17. Originally, Rigondeaux was declared the winner by knockout after he floored his Mexican opponent with a left hand at the end of the first round. On review the Nevada Commission changed the result to a no decision.
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  • #2
    The way lampley stuck it on the comish was hilarious though. He was not letting up. It did seem like he had a vendetta. You could tell he wanted to get the **** out of there but lampley wasn't having it at all

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    • #3
      Took em long enough. I mean everyone's jaw was hitting the floor that night when HBO was lobbying hard as hell for Rigondeaux to get DQ'd trying to pressure the commissioner guy to say so on TV .

      That's the type of shady boxing **** you expect to happen in a dark alley somewhere.

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      • #4
        A great fight for the fans lol? The fight was a joke.

        And Lampley went out of his way to be fair, but the punch was clearly after the bell.

        This is how far we've drifted into biased, corrupt territory in boxing. It's like all these cheating boxers who rely on holding and headbutting and elbowing and low-blowing, from Floyd to Ward to Bernard Hopkins, along with their sycophants Max Kellerman, Roy Jones Jr. with his pro-black pro-American bias, Paulie Malignaggi with his pro-American, pro-defensive boxer, pro-Al Haymon bias, all have an unspoken agreement to cover up cheating on each other's behalf and act like all of that is normal. And now the one time Rigo screwed up and fouled after the bell, Rigo's trainer expects the same courtesy to apply to him.

        And Jim Lampley, the only one even close to objective, is constantly signaled out as the ugly duckling. "Oh Jim won't cover up cheating like everyone else does? Well he must be racist! He's biased!" Just like Virgil Hunter hinted after the first Kovalev fight, and then what happened? Lampley tucked his tail in between his legs and went right along with Max and Roy during the rematch, helping to smooth over and cover up Ward's cheating.

        That's the level of bizarro world boxing has entered into. It's literally the opposite of reality. 90% of the people in power in boxing in the U.S. are either corrupt or extremely biased, including the commentators, so the few people left who are even objective some of the time are signaled out and they are called bias. No, just because you are all upside down, doesn't mean the few people who are still rightside up are the ones out of line. That's not how it works.

        Just like how every single HBO analyst since Emanuel Steward died (R.I.P) has been a defensive black American boxer (RJJ, Ward, BHOP), two of the three being dirty, cheating, probably PED-using ones as well (Ward, BHOP), or an American with an extreme pro-American, pro-defensive, pro-dirty boxing bias, Max Kellerman.

        And look who Showtime's latest analyst is? Paulie Malignaggi, who outside of dirty fighting and PED use is the same thing, a pro-American, pro-defensive former boxer. How does it help the entertainment value of the sport to have nothing but analysts who promote the most unentertaining, unappealing style non-stop? And now ESPN with Tim Bradley and "GGG is not in the top 10 P4P" Teddy Atlas is doing the same thing.

        When is one of boxing's major networks going to hire a former offensive boxer to be an analyst, for once? This would be like if the NBA refused to ever hire Reggie Miller or Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan or any of those guys to commentate basketball games, and instead only hired guys like Dennis Rodman. How do you think they would promote the game then? They would just **** on guys like Steph Curry and James Harden and Kyrie Irving all season, and the game would be worse for it, especially if they had as much power as NBA commentators as boxing commentators do, because boxing is a subjective sport with judges, and commentators influence who the audience believes won, unlike basketball which is based on points so the commentators can't have that much of an effect.

        What boxing needs is more commentators like Jim Lampley, but also analysts, except way more objective than Jim Lampley. It needs to go further in the direction of Jim Lampley, and when a punch lands after the bell and it's clear on replay, it needs to expose that more often, and more assertively, not less. Just because boxers like Ward have been trained to complain more than boxers from other cultures and play the victim constantly does not mean we should listen. This attitude is ruining the sport. What exactly did Jim Lampley do wrong? His HBO truck apparently gave the wrong information to Bob Bennett, so Lampley apologized to him, and told him what the right information was, and gave him a screen and headset so he could see the correct information for himself, and then asked him now that he knew the correct information, what bearing that would have on the outcome of the fight?

        Which is exactly the question everyone watching at home wanted to know! So if Lampley had not asked, y'all would all be criticizing him for not asking! So wtf was he supposed to do? Believe me I am no Jim Lampley fan after he sold out during the Kovalev-Ward rematch, but in this case he did nothing wrong at all. And HBO really needs to replace either Max Kellerman or RJJ, or both, with an offensive boxer from another culture who can actually give that panel some diversity, because hearing Max and Roy push the same exact agenda, with the same exact biases, every telecast is awful.
        Last edited by Boxing Logic; 07-05-2017, 10:03 AM.

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        • #5
          Yea no was is disputing if the punch was after the bell, but it's alarming how thirsty jim lampley was, as an announcer, to keep reiterating to Bennett, his opinion and such


          Lampley is a dick

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
            A great fight for the fans lol? The fight was a joke.

            And Lampley went out of his way to be fair, but the punch was clearly after the bell.

            This is how far we've drifted into biased, corrupt territory in boxing. It's like all these cheating boxers who rely on holding and headbutting and elbowing and low-blowing, from Floyd to Ward to Bernard Hopkins, along with their sycophants Max Kellerman, Roy Jones Jr. with his pro-black pro-American bias, Paulie Malignaggi with his pro-American, pro-defensive boxer, pro-Al Haymon bias, all have an unspoken agreement to cover up cheating on each other's behalf and act like all of that is normal. And now the one time Rigo screwed up and fouled after the bell, Rigo's trainer expects the same courtesy to apply to him.

            That's the level of bizarro world boxing has entered into. It's literally the opposite of reality. 90% of the people in power in boxing in the U.S. are either corrupt or extremely biased, including the commentators, so the few people left who are even objective some of the time are signaled out and they are called bias. No, just because you are all upside down, doesn't mean the few people who are still rightside up are the ones out of line. That's not how it works.

            Just like how every single HBO analyst since Emanuel Steward died (R.I.P) has been a defensive black American boxer (RJJ, Ward, BHOP), two of the three being dirty, cheating, probably PED-using ones as well (Ward, BHOP), or an American with an extreme pro-American, pro-defensive, pro-dirty boxing bias, Max Kellerman.

            And look who Showtime's latest analyst is? Paulie Malignaggi, who outside of dirty fighting and PED use is the same thing, a pro-American, pro-defensive former boxer. How does it help the entertainment value of the sport to have nothing but analysts who promote the most unentertaining, unappealing style non-stop? And now ESPN with Tim Bradley and "GGG is not in the top 10 P4P" Teddy Atlas is doing the same thing.

            When is one of boxing's major networks going to hire a former offensive boxer to be an analyst, for once? This would be like if the NBA refused to ever hire Reggie Miller or Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan or any of those guys to commentate basketball games, and instead only hired guys like Dennis Rodman. How do you think they would promote the game then? They would just **** on guys like Steph Curry and James Harden and Kyrie Irving all season, and the game would be worse for it, especially if they had as much power as NBA commentators as boxing commentators do, because boxing is a subjective sport with judges, and commentators influence who the audience believes won, unlike basketball which is based on points so the commentators can't have that much of an effect.

            What boxing needs is more commentators like Jim Lampley, but also analysts, except way more objective than Jim Lampley. It needs to go further in the direction of Jim Lampley, and when a punch lands after the bell and it's clear on replay, it needs to expose that more often, and more assertively, not less. Just because boxers like Ward have been trained to complain more than boxers from other cultures and play the victim constantly does not mean we should listen. This attitude is ruining the sport. What exactly did Jim Lampley do wrong? His HBO truck apparently gave the wrong information to Bob Bennett, so Lampley apologized to him, and told him what the right information was, and gave him a screen and headset so he could see the correct information for himself, and then asked him now that he knew the correct information, what bearing that would have on the outcome of the fight?

            Which is exactly the question everyone watching at home wanted to know! So if Lampley had not asked, y'all would all be criticizing him for not asking! So wtf was he supposed to do? Believe me I am no Jim Lampley fan after he sold out during the Kovalev-Ward rematch, but in this case he did nothing wrong at all. And HBO really needs to replace either Max Kellerman or RJJ, or both, with an offensive boxer from another culture who can actually give that panel some diversity, because hearing Max and Roy push the same exact agenda, with the same exact biases, every telecast is awful.
            Lmao no boxing need to get rid of clowns like you and Lampley. No one likes him. If you want them to be Pro White go listen to country music or watch golf lmao.

            This sport ran by Mexicans and Blacks deal with it. HBO never said anything about Pacquiao PED use so why you talking about Paulie? Pacquiao complain after every fight..bad socks, shoulder etc ..
            And don't talk about basketball lmao you dont know wtf you're talking about you never played sports a day in your life.
            Last edited by THEFRESHBRAWLER; 07-05-2017, 10:13 AM.

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            • #7
              Jim was once great but now he's starting to sound like Larry Merchant at times. He has also drank too much HBO Kool-Aid over the years, his once independent opinions was what gave him respect, now he's HBO's boy. Some of his recent opinions placing some current young boxers(HBO affiliated) with real ATG's and GOAT's is anachronistic.

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              • #8
                Lampley's lobbying was deplorable........

                I honestly feel Lampley has done his very best to discredit Rigondeaux. He's only an undefeated champion, gold medalist and one of the pound for pound best in the sport. I think Lampley has another agenda which is protecting Lomanchenko which would be a great fight for boxing. Hopefully Rigondeaux will continue to get the fights he deserves.

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                • #9
                  Lampley is a child next to Teddy ATLAS.

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                  • #10
                    Lampley definitely does not like Rigondeaux. Why didn't he press the issue when Golovkin punched Lemieux when he was clearly down? He's a typical fan who only sees infractions when it's someone he doesn't care for.

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