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'Hot Rod' Radivoje Kalajdzic may have a name spelled with the leftover letters from a game of scrabble, but in this case, words can be very deceiving.
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I know that most Muricans think that beyond their borders there is only one country called "not Murica" but if you are pretending to be a professional site and not a basement blog, try to get your facts straight, especially when they can be checked easily. In this very article you first say that Kalajdzic is Serbian (that is true), and then say that he is "from war-torn former Soviet Union". Serbians are not from Soviet Union, and Kalajdzic was born in former Yugoslavia. And no, USSR and SFR Yugoslavia are not part of the same country called "not Murica". -
Lol they made a mistake but this is boxingscene.com not boxingscene.sfr so give them a break it's a boxing forum not a historical forum.Originally posted by FairPlay View Post
Either way Yugoslavia collapsed around the same time as the USSR and it was war torn so they might've slipped up but if you want to get technical then Hot Rod was born in Bosnia and Herzegovina therefore he's Bosnian by nationality and an ethnic Serbian and that's the country he fled from during the breakup of Yugoslavia.
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Fight top 30 guys, top 10 guy have no reason to fight you right now.Comment
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Well, if you want to get "technical" about former Yugoslavian nationalities, we can do it. There never was a "Bosnian" nationality in former Yugoslavia. The Bosnian (or Bosniak) nationality is a post war thing. In the Socialist Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina people were either Serbian, Croat, Yugoslavian, or Muslim. Yes, that's right, the communist government invented a "Muslim nationality" in Bosnia and Herzegovina, an example that is, I think, unique in the modern world, that a religious affiliation was considered a "nationality". After the Yugoslavian war there came the Bosnian nationality which is composed mainly of people who were of "Muslim nationality". Serbs and Croats in today's Bosnia overwhelmingly consider themselves Serbs or Croats, not Bosnians. So, in former Yugoslavia ethnic Serbs in Bosnia were either of Serbian nationality, or of Yugoslavian nationality. A "Yugoslavian nationality", by the way, was another invention of the communist government in an attempt to promote unity within a diverse country of SFR Yugoslavia.Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
Also, there was never such thing as a "war-torn USSR".Comment
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So what you are saying is there is no such thing as Bosnia and Herzegovina? Like it doesn't exist and isn't one of the 6 countries that the former "Yugoslavia" split into? Wasn't there a Bosnian war that involved ethnic cleaning which is why people fled? I get your point but the same could be said about the United States not everyone is from the same ethnic background doesn't mean they weren't born where they were born. Therefore he's Bosnian by nationality and his ethnicity is Serbian. I get what you are saying about them declaring Muslim as a nationality but weren't the ethnic Bosniaks Muslim? So I guess it would just be interchangeable I dunno you tell me.Originally posted by FairPlay View Post
I also never said USSR was war-torn I said it collapsed around the same time, I was referring to Yugoslavia when I said war-torn which it was, which is why I said they probably mixed it up because Hot Rod's family fled Bosnia during the war. My point is though that based on the timing of events and proximity of countries it was an understandable **** up on the writers behalf, obviously it's wrong but like I said its a boxing forum they get **** wrong half the time when it comes to stuff like this especially on lesser known fighters.
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No, I'm not saying that "there is no such thing as Bosnia and Herzegovina". No need for such straw man argument, especially since my post was very clear and the rest of your post is pretty reasonable. What I was saying is that in former Yugoslavia, where Kalajdzic was born, there was no Bosnian nation. There was a federal republic called Bosnia and Herzegovina, but no Bosnian nation and that is a fact. Saying that there was a Bosnian nation in former Yugoslavia is like saying there is a Californian or Texan "nation" in USA.
My remark about there not being a "war torn USSR" was not about your comment, but about the mistake in the article.
Of course that this is a boxing forum, but it is supposed to be a professional one, not some kid's blog, so I expect a bit more professionalism from them, especially when we are talking about things that can be checked in under a minute (and I won't even go into how it is nice for a writer of any kind to have broad general knowledge, since I am aware that in today's world that is a pipe dream). You are absolutely right when you say that the writers here make a bunch of mistakes. Maybe we have different attitudes toward such blunders, but I would like the writers to get better and more professional rather than just say "doesn't matter".
Anyway, props for a civil discussion, a thing that is too rare in this forum.Comment
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