Comments Thread For: Jamal James vs. Radzhab Butaev - LIVE BoxingScene Scorecard

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James, Butaev Scorecard BoxingScene Live - WBA Welterweight Champion Jamal "Shango" James will defend his title against unbeaten contender Radzhab Butaev in a 12-round duel that headlines a night of action live on SHOWTIME Saturday, October 30 in a Premier Boxing Champions event from Michelob ULTRA Arena at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas. (photos by Esther Lin)
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[jonnyc420]

Well looks like the ref gonna be a factor in this one. Good fight so far though.

[jonnyc420]

Very good fight, idk about that stoppage but as I said this ref was gonna be a factor. He seemed too early on the point he took and definitely on the stoppage.

[jbdmusic]

James didn't look like he was in top shape and brawling isn't what he's supposed to do. Fighting on the outside is what he should be doing.

[Boxing Logic]

Very good fight, idk about that stoppage but as I said this ref was gonna be a factor. He seemed too early on the point he took and definitely on the stoppage.

Some bad stoppages are annoying because they rob fans from seeing the last action scenes in the movie. Some bad stoppages are annoying because they appear to alter the ending of the movie. And some bad stoppages do both.

The latter two are what are really worth complaining about. This was the first one. Was the stoppage randomly timed? Yes. On that basis, it was bad. Did it "factor" into the portrayed outcome? Not even a little. If you are taking what you see at face value, questioning this stoppage would be like questioning "why did Walters and Rigo quit against Lomachenko?" except replace quitting with a "bad stoppage." Due to the fact people never got to see what happens next in those situations, there's still doubt left in their minds. But if you've watched enough of these movies that do show the ending to know the huge decline of stamina, punching power, physical strength, and punch resistance that is consistently portrayed after that many rounds of the portrayal one of man in the ring being walked down and body punched like that by another, then you know if that had not ended the way it did, then the movie would have ended not much longer after that, with the portrayal of James being totally mauled in the classic "a snowball becomes bigger and bigger as it rolls downhill" portrayal.

It's really the same movie show as Fury-Wilder II, except replace Mark Breland with the referee, and replace Wilder with someone portraying more durability in James.

Butaev James put on the best movie in awhile though. Butaev's "punches" and the sound effects, very cool. Just a little less entertaining than it could have been because his portrayal on the defensive side was absorbing shots that he made it seem like he's not really going to be a main player in the overall welterweight cinematic universe, as did his portrayals of missing some punches he shouldn't have, and the fact his punches were not portrayed as grinding down James sooner.

But southpaw Butaev's portrayal of punches were really exciting and entertaining. I didn't realize he was that athletic a performer. That style mix of Lomachenko, Beterbiev, and Andre Ward is awesome to watch. That grapple-boxing portrayal not only adds so much variety to the movies, but it adds the perception of so much more tactical and strategic depth that is missing in so many of these movies. But then he was portrayed to randomly come out orthodox again for no reason which, like his defensive portrayal at times, turned what was otherwise an Oscar nominee quality of movie into a corny B movie again.

But overall, that was greatly coordinated, directed, and performed. Crawford, Butaev, Besputin, and Kell Brook during his prime are the most entertaining welterweights to me, and portray the most pleasing skill and form to me. Maybe not Brook. Mikey Garcia if you count him as a welterweight also has nice form. I mean, lots of them do. Garcia in his own way. Ortiz in his own way. Spence's movies have never been as entertaining to me I think sort of because of his inactive guard and his being off balance. I think if these guys were American they would be portrayed as beating Spence were those movies to come around, and visually it would make sense and be believable. Kell Brook's portrayal before GGG might have appeared to this day the #1 post-Mayweather/Pacquiao welterweight, but he didn't have Spence's marketability (or GGG's). Mikey was also portrayed as better but same story there. Sort of a waste.

[byfbnz]

I never liked that ref. Early stoppage. During the Maidana Broner fight, he was giving broner all kinds of breaks over maidana. thought broner might steal the fight over that.